Not really. It helps for those couples that wanna go to a bar, but have asthma... like my Dad. He couldn't go this one restaurant for almost a year because the smoke was so bad. Oh well.
It's the future... I'd give up now if I was you. ;-)
I'm pretty sure smoking in bars is banned in California too, and probably elsewhere in the US as well. As it is in New Zealand, though only for the last year or so. If you want to smoke, you've gotta go outside...
i don't smoke! well, except when i'm in a bar or at a party. but i'm surprised that from what you say there seem to be no special smokers' bars (at least) in countries where smoking is prohibited in public places?
La liberté des uns s'arrête là où commence celle des autres.
I don't go around farting in people's nose, hair and clothes, i expect smokers to do just the same in the public places we share. It doesn't sound all that dictatorial to me, just basic civility.
Well, it's forbidden to filter entrance in a bar (or that is called a private club), therefore non-smokers have a legitimate right to go to any bar, just like they have a legitimate right to breathe a clean air. Consequently, there can be no such thing as smokers bars.
This is quite a mathematical demonstration, i guess there are considerations of public health as well: thing is tobacco tends to be eradicated, even though it's done slowly, step by step, somewhat hypocritically since at the same time it's bringing good money into the governments' pockets.
Ah yes, Sweeden ! I knew i was forgetting something, Sweeden has just forbidden smoking in all bars and restaurants as well. With the particularity that people have snuf there, tobacco in some sort of little tea bags that they chew, instead of smoking. That is likely to replace cigarettes in public places and ashtrays will remain for people to drop there snuf in when it's over. Only problem is that it's more addictive and bad for health than smoke is... But at least it leaves my nose and hair alone.
they've banned smoking in Austin, TX too. no big deal. i actually preferred it when i was a smoker. it's nicer to go outside and get away from the loudness of a bar and talk with people. but there are a lot of bars here in nyc that will let you smoke. you just have to be careful.
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Date: 2005-07-13 11:30 am (UTC)I'm pretty sure smoking in bars is banned in California too, and probably elsewhere in the US as well. As it is in New Zealand, though only for the last year or so. If you want to smoke, you've gotta go outside...
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Date: 2005-07-13 09:53 pm (UTC)it became prohibited in Ireland and Italy
to smoke in any bar or restaurant.
We have lighter forms of this
law over here but it's not
very much respected.
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Date: 2005-07-13 10:12 pm (UTC)I don't go around farting in people's nose, hair and clothes,
i expect smokers to do just the same in the public places we share.
It doesn't sound all that dictatorial to me, just basic civility.
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Date: 2005-07-13 10:39 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-07-13 11:12 pm (UTC)(or that is called a private club), therefore
non-smokers have a legitimate right to go
to any bar, just like they have a legitimate
right to breathe a clean air. Consequently,
there can be no such thing as smokers bars.
This is quite a mathematical demonstration, i
guess there are considerations of public health
as well: thing is tobacco tends to be eradicated,
even though it's done slowly, step by step, somewhat
hypocritically since at the same time it's bringing good
money into the governments' pockets.
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Date: 2005-07-14 07:56 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-07-13 11:17 pm (UTC)Sweeden has just forbidden smoking in all bars and restaurants as well.
With the particularity that people have snuf there, tobacco in some
sort of little tea bags that they chew, instead of smoking. That is likely
to replace cigarettes in public places and ashtrays will remain for people
to drop there snuf in when it's over. Only problem is that it's more addictive
and bad for health than smoke is... But at least it leaves my nose and hair alone.
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Date: 2005-07-14 02:34 am (UTC)