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Date: 2007-01-09 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darksomnabule.livejournal.com
that's fantastic!!!

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Date: 2007-01-09 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
thank-you! i'm actually building it to try to sell prints on it some day in remote future, like via deviantart. i'm actually ripping the idea form you ;)

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Date: 2007-01-09 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darksomnabule.livejournal.com
yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Date: 2007-01-09 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ignis-herba.livejournal.com
очень клево все!
(я бы сделала чуть меньше - картинку заглавной страницы, чтобы в монитор ровно влезала)

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Date: 2007-01-09 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
ой блин, действительно не влезает на 800х600. она вообще-то 791 по ширине, я думал влезет. спасибо, попробую изменить...

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Date: 2007-01-10 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julu.livejournal.com
OMG, AWESOME!!!!! it looks amazing!!!!

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Date: 2007-01-10 12:55 am (UTC)

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Date: 2007-01-12 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Go you!

Sell prints? Good luck.

Oh, are Russians allowed to use eBay?

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Date: 2007-01-12 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
i don't know, maybe you meant it as a joke, but as a matter of fact, although russians are allowed to use ebay, they are not allowed to use paypal.

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Date: 2007-01-12 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
No - not as a joke. I've been exploring eBay of late, and I noticed Russia was missing from a list of countries somewhere, which made me wonder whether you were excluded.

No PayPal's a bummer. Having it linked to eBay makes it absurdly easy to sell (more-or-less) world-wide. Do you know if it's the Russian powers-that-be or PayPal that locks you out?

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Date: 2007-01-12 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
i think it's paypal, though i'm not sure. but in fact there are many other unsupported countries. you're right, no paypal is very bad, especially if you sell to individuals. it should be easier if you sell through companies like deviantart though.

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Date: 2007-01-12 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Yes - I just bought a mousepad of this (http://www.deviantart.com/print/432835/) to test them, and they're a reasonable shopping experience, and they accept PayPal. (I needed a mousepad - honest!) Shipping seemed a bit high for just a mousepad though - US$11.90.

Looks for mousepads on eBay with shipping to NZ and finds this one...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260075306918

charging US$4.95.

What commission do they charge at deviantART?

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Date: 2007-01-12 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
the commission depends on the 'plan' you use. if you pay them something like $30 a year, they give you something like 50% of what they get for your prints less printing costs, if i remember right. the idea is that you give them the originals of your photos and drive the traffic in, and they print, sell, ship, charge et cetera.

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Date: 2007-01-12 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Hard to compare with eBay, where you'd do the printing and shipping yourself. And deviantart are not an auction like eBay, which has the advantage of allowing you to find out just how much people are willing to pay for your stuff - if two or more who really want it start bidding for it...

Do you still retain ownership of your art with deviantart, and can you withdraw it? As there might be a way to test your prints at auction that way... ;-) Meaning you sell a few via deviantart to a certain someone, then take them off deviantart for a while, and the certain someone offers them on eBay to see what happens...

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Date: 2007-01-12 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
yes, you retain the ownership, but, first of all, they are prints, i.e. there are unlimited copies, nobody would compete for that. toys are a different story, they should be sold on ebay, preferably. deviantart specialize in professional printing, i will never be able to do anything like that: lab results are unpredictable, and then - the hassle of printing individual photos! so i think a service like deviantart or smugmug is the best thing, for selling prints. it's all a question of exposure, of promotion, because naturally everyone has a camera these days and the competition should be severe. the appealing aspect is that there's almost zero investment - you build and promote your site, over years -- something you'd do anyway...

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Date: 2007-01-12 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
There's only unlimited copies while they're on deviantart, which is why I said about taking them off. But the idea would be just to find out what people would bid for them in their own right, to give you an idea of how high your prices should be. I assume you're allowed to set the price as high as you like on deviantart?

If you look in eBay category Art/Prints/Contemporary you'll find there's a 'Modern - Open Edition', (as apposed to limited edition), which is where your stuff would fit. Use eBay's advanced search to find those that have had at least 1 bid to see what they sell for - though 2 bids are better, as it means you see the highest anyone would pay, as apposed to the lowest the seller will take for it.

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Date: 2007-01-12 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
i think the price should be higher than deviantart's 'default price', which is the only option for free accounts, but not much higher, because, naturally, the more you charge, the fewer you sell.

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Date: 2007-01-12 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
There's an argument that a too low price turns people off because they think the product must be of low quality.

But anyway, you'll have so much to offer you'll be able to experiment with different prices, and if the higher-priced ones sell as many as the lower-priced ones, you'll be able to adjust your prices accordingly.

And it's 1am and I'll be working if it's not wet tomorrow...

Nighty, night...

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Date: 2007-01-12 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
your clock is wrong, because it's 3 pm, but good night anyway...

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Date: 2007-01-25 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
The mousepad arrived today, (thus about 12 days to get here from date of order), and quite nice it is too. (Has another sniff.) It was in a cardboard envelope with 'Photographs enclosed, please do not bend' written on it, but it was bent. Of no importance when the 'photographs' were a rubber mat, but if there were photographs in it, I suspect the recipient would've been a bit disappointed.

You any closer to the grande opening of your deviantART store?

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Date: 2007-01-25 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
no, it's not going to be anytime soon, there's a hell of work to do. and i'm concentrating on my animation now...

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Date: 2007-01-25 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Mmmm - concentration - I remember it, err, sort of...

Not been easy to concentrate here this week (http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=IHAWKESB5&day=26&year=2007&month=1&graphspan=week)...

You any closer to finishing you animation? ;-)

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Date: 2007-01-25 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
'your'...

Blugh. See what I mean? (Never mind the need to re-post to get the link right...)

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Date: 2007-01-25 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
it will be several more months - even if i have time to work on it! i made it pretty simple at first, but now it's getting more complicated, with a lot of details and in-line animation. so i will have to redo some of the things i made earlier.
the graph looks dramatic... and we're just starting winter here, there was no snow until the day before yesterday, and trees in the forest are in catkins.

оффтоп

Date: 2007-01-24 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/tomk_/
без ваших фотографий как-то пусто в ЖЖ,
надеюсь, у вас ничего не случилось?
сайт нравится )))

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Date: 2007-01-24 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
все более-менее, спасибо! нюше сделали операцию - у нее оказался целлофановый пакет внутри и спайки кишечника - полученные в результате стерилизации! - из-за которых он не проходил. хирург давал десять процентов на то, что выживет, предлагал усыпить - но вроде пока живая.... я сейчас занимаюсь мультиком, практически не снимаю, и жж тоже почти не читаю - но потом надеюсь может быть наверстать. недаесь, что у вас тоже все хорошо :)

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Date: 2007-01-24 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/tomk_/
очень сочувствую, после операции очень тяжело, наверное :(

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Date: 2007-01-24 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
ну - легче, чем до, это точно! хуже всего неопределенность. потом, когда мы ее на узи повезли, то уже практически были уверены, что рак, думали тоже, что наркоз не перенесет - последняя степень истощения все-таки. сейчас после операции оправилась, но толстеть пока не начала.

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Date: 2007-01-25 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/tomk_/
да,досталось вам, хоть бы все хорошо было
этот покет у нее там несколько месяцев находился, по этому и болела? или это новое преобретение?

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Date: 2007-01-25 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
доктор сказал, что пакет у нее там мог лежать еще до того, как мы ее нашли, т.е. несколько лет. у нее, ко всему прочему, неправильная (т-образная, как он сказал) форма кишечника. то есть он весь между собой переплетен и могут возникать заторы, плюс спайки после стерилизации. так что этот пакет у нее по-видимому лежал очень долго, а этой осенью наступило обострение. но поскольку мы ничего такого не подозревали, то лечили ее от дисбактериоза, который, как теперь оказалось, был следствием инородного тела в кишечнике... короче, кишечник у нее практически атрофировался из-за того, что фрагмент с этим пакетом разбух и все вокруг пережал. пища не проходила, от этого ее рвало. когда мы лечили ее от дисбактериоза (она тогда быстро начала поправляться), то она еще и отравилась - или у нее было обострение из-за инородного тела, не знаю. короче, столько всего наложилось... а надо было просто сразу узи делать.

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Date: 2007-01-25 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
а вот нюша после операции. сегодняшние фотки:

Image

Image

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Date: 2007-01-26 01:19 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
милая, мученица, ну ничего, такие не умирают, теперь долго жить будет, хорошая славная животная...ох.до слез невозможно смотреть в глаза, не даром Цветаева собак называла божеством. А ведь вот и правда, у Данте тоже: волчица - символ похоти, а пёс, собака - символ Мессии...Я правда это помню не из БК, а фильм тут на днях смотрели "Ад Данте" Гринуэя

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Date: 2007-01-26 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] okun.livejournal.com
я была
надеюсь у вас не стоит звонок на почте - а то кому-то писала вот так ночью, так разбудила, а электронка тем ведь и хороша, что ненавязчивая, без трезвона и суеты...
нюшу в ухо поцелуйте от меня

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Date: 2007-01-26 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
нет, я на ночь вообще компьютер отключаю, а потом по нынешним временам если звонок на почту ставить всю ночь спам звенеть будет! :)
спасибо!

Re: оффтоп

Date: 2007-01-26 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/tomk_/
Как хорошо, совсем другой взгляд!
и не такая худая вроде
Я очень рада )))

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Date: 2007-01-28 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julu.livejournal.com
when's your new site gonna be up! i wanna order prints.

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Date: 2007-01-28 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
oh, better forget about it - maybe in a year or two, something like that. there's a lot of work to do and things to think out, like payment transfers et cetera...

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Date: 2007-01-29 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julu.livejournal.com
oh... :(

well you should do that thing where you send me a bunch of random prints again! is it expensive for you to do that?

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Date: 2007-01-29 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
no, that's not expensive, because i printed them at home. but hello? didn't you have enough prints?
btw, did you notice that they are not waterproof?

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Date: 2007-01-29 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julu.livejournal.com
haha well, seeing as how i didn't take them underwater or anything i didnt notice but i don't think any less of them!

actually oh my goodness it would be amazing if i could go through all your photos and have you make prints of the ones i wanted. it may be something like twenty billion photos but i'd try to cut it down to 15 or something!

but still, look how much wall i have left to cover!

Image

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Date: 2007-01-29 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
well, ok you can choose ten billion, and i will print a random number, but that won't be soon... hopefully before your graduation, at least!

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Date: 2007-01-29 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julu.livejournal.com
how should i choose them?!

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Date: 2007-01-29 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
what do you mean how? browse my journal, choose individual photos, and send me their links, or their filenames

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