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Date: 2007-04-05 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
I'm the only one who ever tells you!

I like the sculptured lady. Magnificently smug.

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Date: 2007-04-05 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
you mean some pictures don't show properly? the order in which your comments arrive suggests that you're reading my journal the other way around, i.e. earlier posts first. i think the lady is Ekaterina II, a slut of german origin!

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Date: 2007-04-05 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
The first pic here.

I'm reading all journals 'the other way round' - which doesn't make a lot of sense. Reading them in the order they were written is the other way round?

The Easter holidays have started - four days off - yah!

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Date: 2007-04-05 12:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
well, i respect you for being such a working person, with holidays and stuff. borders between work and off-time in my life disappeared a long time ago. i never quite work, and never quite have holidays.

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Date: 2007-04-05 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
That's a good compromise - you respect me and I'll envy you...

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Date: 2007-04-05 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
that's... a dangerous compromise!

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Date: 2007-04-05 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Possibly... :-)

Have you ever heard of Anita Loos? (He said in response to an eBay email arriving about her.) I've been reading her biographies of late. A smart lass who was one of the first movie script-writers.

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Date: 2007-04-05 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
no, i've never heard about her, why?

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Date: 2007-04-05 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Because she should be more well known, I reckon. See the Wikipedia entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Loos)...

Which, if you haven't read her biographies, seems mildly interesting, but if you have comes across as hilarious! The Wikipedia line about her first husband: "Loos and he were together for only a short time." Well, happens, right? In A Girl Like I though Loos says she left him the day after her wedding night... Gets more interesting, right?

Missing also is mention that she was writing short pieces for New York newspapers when about 14, the editors only knowing her as 'A. Loos' from somewhere out west. Quite the child prodigy. "In my youth I never kept a diary, figuring that a girl who could sell her words for money had other fish to fry."

She was also friends with a lot of the notables of the early half of last century, and not just the movie set. Aldous Huxley, Edwin Hubble and H. L. Mencken for instance, to give an idea of the range. Her bios are a fun way to get a feel for how the US came to dominate last century. (In the cultural and business sense, the movies being part of show 'business', after all.)

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Date: 2007-04-07 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
as you know, wikipedia articles are written by arbitrary people, so if it's wrong, why don't you edit it? i think i have never read a single biography in my whole life, although i've been meaning to for some while. my aunt is a great fan of biographies.

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Date: 2007-04-07 08:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
I have no time to learn how to speak Wikipedia. It was suggested a while ago I should change something with regards to 6A and breastfeeding-icons, but I didn't have time then to learn it either.

Which should explain how little time I have!

Biographies become more interesting as you get older I think, as the past starts to become as interesting as the future - which you're not going to see as much of.

Oh, and the Maoris talk of the past in front of you and the future behind you...

Had you not heard of H. L. Mencken too? I've heard him quoted a bit, but I haven't read him and don't really know anything about him, but it's dawning on me that he was a pivotal figure among the American intelligentsia of the day. (When such a term made sense. Who are the intelligentsia of today? They seem well hidden.)
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._L._Mencken)
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Date: 2007-04-07 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
If nothing else, he is very quotable (http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/H._L._Mencken)...

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Date: 2007-04-07 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dear-niece.livejournal.com
no, i've never heard of him, but i like his quotes. no one knows who or where the intelligentsia are, which i thought was a purely russian phenomenon...

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Date: 2007-04-07 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
because it is being often said, in russia, that intelligentsia has a special role and meaning in russia. and many other things are being said about intelligentsia, like: 'intelligentsia is a class hated by both the common people and the government'. from w. article on intelligentsia:

The term has been borrowed from the Russian, a transliteration of "интеллигенция" ("intelligentsiya"). Those two were earlier borrowed from the French word "intelligence". Initially the term was applied mostly in the context of Poland, Russia and later Soviet Union, and had a narrower meaning based on a self-definition of a certain category of intellectuals.

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Date: 2007-04-07 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Well, I've certainly heard it used in a general sense in the West, and dictionaries, while acknowledging its Russian origin, seem to concur: 'intellectuals considered as a group or class, esp. as a cultural, social, or political elite"...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/intelligentsia

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Date: 2007-04-07 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
well, the article is like 3/4 about russia and poland. anyway, if it disappeared in the west, as you say, it must have been a global shift: it's often said in the media today that there's no place left for the intelligentsia in russia, it lost its role, et cetera, the main reason being cited - westernization of russian society... go figure...

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Date: 2007-04-07 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
westernization of russian society

aka dumbing down. :-)

Elitism has gone out of favour in the West, (or at least the concept, if not the reality), so that's probably why you don't hear much of our intelligentsia these days.

I expect that Wikipedia article was written mostly by a Russian, going by the references at the bottom. So, Western versions...

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22new+york+intelligentsia%22

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Date: 2007-04-07 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
no, more like aka restructuring of classes.
the first link for "new york intelligentsia" being 'MyJewishLearning.com', very telling!

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Date: 2007-04-07 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
I thought you'd pick up on the JewishLearning link.

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Date: 2007-04-07 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
that was inevitable!

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Date: 2007-04-07 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
he-he, ann forgot to log off again

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Date: 2007-04-07 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
I figured...

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