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Date: 2007-07-01 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Working at a typewriter doesn't look so bad after the preceding pictures, does it?

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Date: 2007-07-01 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
i like sitting in a chair and hanging out in forest much better! btw the typewriter picture looks extremely depressing to me, in that special 70s-depressing way.

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Date: 2007-07-02 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Except it looks like the 50s or early 60s to me. Not very long hair and they're wearing ties. Plus it's a B&W photo! The world changed to colour in the late 60s you know - when Hendrix plugged in.

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Date: 2007-07-02 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
yeah, the world on the other side of the curtain, you mean. did you know that there were campaigns in the 70s where people with long hair were caught in the street and dispatched to barbershops by citizen patrol? i wonder when those electric 'yatran' typewriters first appeared, too!

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Date: 2007-07-03 08:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Pah - we all had to fight to be free of the short back and sides, you know!

I wondered about the typwriters, too. I assume they're Russian-made?

But anyway, here's what you missed out on by not growing up in the West. And Illinois kid's diary from the 70s! Enjoy...

http://www.geocities.com/stuckinthe70s/

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Date: 2007-07-03 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
yeah, yatran is the famous soviet office electric typewriter. i used to have one.
i watched Fast Times At Ridgemont High (1982) recently, and realized that people my age in the west had a sort of life that my nieces have now - not quite, but if you compare that with the sort of life i had as a teenager it really looks similar. like, they are sexually unrestrained, socially positive (if that makes any sense?), and career-centered. we weren't like that.

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Date: 2007-07-03 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
It makes a lot of sense. And yes, your nieces do look as though they have the freedoms and opportunities the young have in the West. It'll be their generation that'll reap the rewards of perestroika, same as it's the children of the (Western) 60's generation who take the social freedoms won then for granted.

I grew up in the mid to late 60s when that sort of freedom was just emerging in the West. Big debates about whether unmarried women should be allowed the pill and whether TV should be broadcast in the daytime - when it might distract the housewives from their work. (The latter not relevant to the US of course, they getting TV much earlier than NZ.)

I feel in tune with what came after the 60s but my three elder brothers are really more products of the early 60s. (They're five to twelve years older than me.) They all married, and I noticed when talking to the lawyer about Dad's will that the two who're still married have shared bank-accounts with their wives. You could see the (young) lawyer found that a bit of an anachronism, or at least that they didn't have personal accounts as well. And none of their children have married, though two are in (I assume) permanent relationships, with another in one long enough to have children.

What's happening now I think is the young most everywhere have more in common with each other than with their parent's generation. [livejournal.com profile] otherjoseph's LJ of life among students in the Philippines is a good example of that. It could be any university life anywhere.

A bugger that the young have all the fun, isn't it? ;-)

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Date: 2007-07-03 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
well, they don't seem to have all the fun exactly when you regard them one by one - there's just about as much of frustration and confusion, it seems, but they've got a few things straight out of the box, like, they are more sane.
*It could be any university life anywhere*
yeah, and then you get into a google, and you're still on a campus!: http://no2google.wordpress.com/2007/06/24/life-at-google-the-microsoftie-perspective/

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Date: 2007-07-03 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
*looked at the journal*
i hate young people hanging out together!

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Date: 2007-07-05 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Still - you might learn something about how to make your LJ popular...

http://otherjoseph.livejournal.com/20118.html

(It's via LJ's front page I noticed him.)

Assuming you want it to be popular, of course. (Though you probably wouldn't pass LJ's censors, given the cigarette in your mouth...)

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Date: 2007-07-05 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
i am a popularity whore, but 'lj spotlight'!..

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Date: 2007-07-05 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Real artists have no shame!

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Date: 2007-07-05 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
yes, but we are very squeamish. like, ewwww this, ewww that EWWWWWWWWWWWW

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Date: 2007-07-05 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Pah - it only requires a text entry somewhere, then if you're accepted you get a month's free advertising and lots of potential new customers for when you offer your book for sale.

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Date: 2007-07-05 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
600 is not so many potential customers when you think of it. besides, being spotlighted would on;y make me look lame: one thing that is good for pimping is a clean and clear style, and my style is very unclear.

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Date: 2007-07-06 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Ah - but that's only 600 who've friended you. You're forgetting the non-LJers they mention you to.

But yeah - you're all over the place like Brown's cows. A bit like Russia, in fact! Which kinda makes your photos an honest portrait of the country.

A good example on my FL of someone who knows how to promote themselves is [livejournal.com profile] medox. Of course, it helps that she already has something to sell. Have you any ideas yet about turning your photos into a product?

Oh, and I checked out how PayPal ranks the different countries...

http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-approved-signup-countries-outside

There's sort of five tiers, with Russia unfortunately among the huge number in the bottom tier who can only send money - not receive it. (While China's in the top tier. So much for dumping Communism being good for an economy. Though Poland's in the top tier too, but then they were more a colony than an embracer of Communism.)

I expect what's critical is a stable banking system and a relatively low level of corruption in a country. And maybe a good distribution system, since it's eBay that owns PayPal.

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Date: 2007-07-06 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
you're right, it's about time i sell something, but i have no ideas. about paypal - it's funny because i heard that paypal was organized by a russian. but yes, russia is very much left out of all the fun.

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Date: 2007-07-06 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
What about that coffee-table book your readers keep asking for? (Can't find anything about Russia with regards to LuLu - other than non-US publishers requiring either PayPal or a credit-card - and are paid by either PayPal or a cheque. Do you have a credit/debit card they might support? And if so, the next question is if LuLu would post a cheque to Russia that you could cash...)

Here's an idea: Figure out a way to make it easy for (trustworthy) Russians to sell stuff on sites like LuLu and eBay and Etsy and be the middle-man creaming 5% off them... Is posting stuff from Russia reasonably safe?

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Date: 2007-07-06 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
ha, there's a whole business for that, i researched that topic once. some russians sell stuff on ebay through these small middle-man companies specializing in russia, for example http://westernbid.com/english.html .

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Date: 2007-07-10 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
So - too late to be first dressed there!

Have you tried using any of them?

(Note - I'm catching up on old comments...)

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Date: 2007-07-10 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
no - not yet. i'm still procrastinating.

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Date: 2007-07-10 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
You don't have to start out selling your own stuff. (Assuming you're thinking of selling on eBay.) Nothing to stop you reselling stuff you've bought cheap at flee-markets and so on. Collectible stuff that's unlikely to be easily available in the west.

Hee - good examples...

http://stores.ebay.com/Russian-Soviet-USSR-collectibles

though they may not have been all made in Russia.

The point at the start with eBay is to build up a reasonable rating, as apposed to making money. Then when you've made dozens of sales to satisfied customers and have managed to keep a 100% rating, start selling your own stuff, but now with the point of turning a profit. (Of course if things have turned pear-shaped, you can just quietly shut up shop...)

Though eBayer's do like to use PayPal, so how you'd work that in with Westernbid I wouldn't know. If they accept PayPal, then I assume you can direct buyers to their site somehow...

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Date: 2007-07-10 08:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
yes, of course this is the point of the middle men, they support ebay and everything else for a commission.
all that russian stuff looks very cheap. but thanks for the advice, maybe that's the way to go, though a boring one.
pear-shaped! i should remember this.

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Date: 2007-07-10 09:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
But it's your store, not theirs, which is what I was wondering about.

I've been studying eBay for months and should've had a store up by now, (a very boring one), but it'll be October now because I procrastinate too. ;-)

But if you want a fast and less boring way to get a high rating quick - just buy a lot of cheap things! Both buying and selling will up your rating.

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Date: 2007-07-10 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
what i'm wondering about - who's buying all that? one would think that they just keep relisting their items forever. also, i wonder whether anyone will compete for your stuff, even if you sell something good, unless you drive people to your lot from elsewhere (and unless your stuff is very unique and popular, of course)

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Date: 2007-07-10 09:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Well, look at: http://stores.ebay.com/Russian-Fair

They currently have 612 items for sale, of which only 23 are for auction. (Click 'Auction Only'.)

And if you check their feedback...

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=olegpiter&ftab=AllFeedback

you'll see they've had 1194 positive feedbacks in the last year. (Which only means buyers who've bothered to leave feedback, so they would've sold more items than that.)

So they're selling at least 4 items a day.

Now listing in a store's quite cheap, (10c or so per month per unique item), though you've $26 a month shop fees on top of that.

What stores seem to do is use the auctions to attract buyers to their stores. Auctions cost a dollar or so and only last a week, so they're expensive if only a low percentage of your auction items sell - but they are cheap advertising. List a 'russian bear' for auction and every one who has searches set up for 'russian bear' will get an email telling them about it.

Etc... :-)

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Date: 2007-07-10 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
yes, it's interesting, although sending so much stuff is a hassle. what stops me every time i research ebay is that there are so many layers and fees. ebay, paypal, customers, postoffice, middleman, banks, then chargebacks, customs problems, frauds etc. even if you don't work at a loss, it looks very much like a full time job.

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Date: 2007-07-10 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Yeah. It's the same hassle you'll have with any mail-order business. But it's incredibly easy to buy from eBay, and the biggest hassle with selling is the listing of items, (taking scans or photos and uploading them and then describing your item), and then of course packaging and shipping it when you sell it.

But there's advantages too, as eBay provides you with a packing-slip form, so other than printing it out, there's no other paperwork for you to do other than the address label for the parcel.

And if you were selling a standard-sized item such as prints of your photos, you'd be able to have all the postage worked out in advance as well. With what I plan to do, it's the listing of items that's the slow part - everything else quick and simple in comparison.

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Date: 2007-07-10 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
interesting! speak on, you've almost convinced me.

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Date: 2007-07-10 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
OK - here's what I'd suggest...

First, I'd open an account with westernbid (if you think that's the best middleman for between you and eBay), just to make sure there wouldn't be any problems with getting money to you via them.

Then I'd open an eBay account, find some stores with good ratings that sell a lot of similar things to what you're thinking of selling and buy some of their cheapest products, by both bidding in auctions and using BuyItNow. (Say one item from 4 or so different stores - or more if you have the budget for it.) This will teach you two things - what it's like to buy stuff on eBay and how the different stores package the kind of items you want to sell.

(And if it's possible for you to open a PayPal account for buying, (I think overseas accounts need a credit-card), I'd do that too as it'd teach you what the PayPal experience is like as well. Otherwise use westernbid or whoever you choose.)

Then if that's gone smoothly and you're still interested in selling, then continue on... (But if you don't want to, you shouldn't be too much out of pocket and hopefully have some interesting junk from all corners of the globe!;)

I'd then try selling some unimportant and cheap stuff by auction, to get some practice at selling and sending stuff off - and receiving money. But don't expect more than about a 10% to 30% success rate with auctions - depending on what you're selling. They only last a week - whereas your items in a store can be there indefinitely at just 10c or whatever it is a month.

At this point you'll know what it's like to sell stuff on eBay and whether it's a sensible route for you to take. You won't know if your products will be easy to sell if you open a store though, but if you can put dozens up quickly in a store and trickle a few into auctions every week as advertising, you should get an indication in a month or two whether it's a viable way for you to make money.

So - if you try this approach, just take every step slowly and carefully and you shouldn't get into any strife. eBay is very good at hand-holding for new users.

Oh, and I'll be sending you a (shorter;) email about this too...

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Date: 2007-07-11 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
thanks, it may turn out very useful.

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Date: 2007-07-10 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Okay - here's an artist's feedback...

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=flyinggirlart&ftab=AllFeedback

Sells stuff from around $20 up into the $300+ range. With 20+ positive feedbacks in the last month. You could go and add a month's worth up if you like... (eBay's a very good place to study eBay!)

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Date: 2007-07-10 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
well, yes, convincing. i guess i should use my current depression and artistic impotence to do a couple of useful things. i've already wasted today to build my gallery: http://chushka.com/
if my depression lingers, i'll catch up with ebay! of course, it needs to be done for natasha, first of all.

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Date: 2007-07-10 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Well of course Natasha comes first! How could you think I'd think otherwise?! ;-)

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Date: 2007-07-10 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Oh, and looked at the gallery - and left a comment, and possibly two. It's quite a good system, but how editable is it? Could you add background images or replace the text-links with graphic ones, for instance? And can a blog be added?

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Date: 2007-07-11 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
it's open source and completely editable. but threaded commenting would be very difficult to add, i'm afraid. on the other hand, who needs commenting in a static gallery that is not a blog? you comment showed up, here http://www.chushka.com/gallery/c/view/170.html?g2_return=%2Fgallery%2Fv%2Fphotos%2F&g2_returnName=album

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Date: 2007-07-10 08:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Well, thousands seem to use westernbid. Some examples...

http://stores.ebay.com/Russian-Fair

http://stores.ebay.com/collectiblesua

http://stores.ebay.com/collection-SOVIET-belik2005

http://stores.ebay.com/kalinka-boutique

Click on the products and you'll see it supports PayPal and is quite easy to use from the buyer's POV - or at least looks like it is...

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Date: 2007-07-01 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
offtop: what rss reader do you use, if any?

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Date: 2007-07-01 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Well - the LJ friends list of course. What better way to see everybody's locked posts? (Though I can't add feeds any more - but I've already too many, anyway...)

Otherwise I'd use the RSS reader client I wrote myself a while back. Which needs to be made so it can handle more than one list of feeds. But it's good, as you can tell it to ignore RSS items that match lists of keywords. Good for those feeds that only occasionally mention topics you're interested in. Hmmm - but it wouldn't handle the Russia alphabet... :-( Oh, but I might be wrong about that, because I can remember wondering how I'd add automatic conversions to it. It's just the keywords that it probably can't handle.

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Date: 2007-07-02 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
I can't add feeds too, so that doesn't make any sense, since the point is to take everything in. but what i want is a livejournal-like rss, in that it would be a simple html page that lets you go back as far as you choose (well, not quite like livejournal then!). i tried google rss, but it appears to be slow

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Date: 2007-07-02 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Adding feeds is why you have paid-users on your FL! ;-)

Ok, so I'm running my Feedreader for the first time since the 23rd June last year. Blimey - it's over a year since I used it! It stores the feeds you look at, so you can go back to previous ones. And here's the stats for then...

Feeds checked: 156 Total items for the day: 1680 Shown items: 326

What that means is that of the 1680 items looked at in the 156 feeds, only 326 passed the keywords tests.

So let's see what it makes of today...

Started at 12:12am - finished at 12:26am! So 14 minutes to look at...

Feeds checked: 156 Total items for the day: 1980 Shown items: 487

I expect what made it so slow was the 50 or so feeds it found errors with, most of which I assume have just disappeared in the last year. I remember it only taking two or three minutes in the past. It didn't crash though, which is good. Will run it again now, to see how much faster it is.

While it displays a few non-English feeds, it doesn't use the appropriate fonts. I assume there's a way to detect that from the feeds, but if not, it could be added as an option for each feed.

Speed is one of the problems with running this as a client instead of on a server. On a server it could be checking the feeds at a leisurely pace all day long and have the results ready for you the minute you want to look. As a client though it has to check each feed when you run it. Which isn't too bad for someone on broadband, but mightn't be much fun on dialup...

The good news is the output's very similar to the LJ friends' page. Pictures are displayed, and ditto for embedded video, plus text-formatting's normal.

This is written in REBOL, so it's just a script, (though with a GUI for a front-end), with the output appearing in your browser's window. If you weren't on dialup I'd say it could probably be made to do what you want, but I'd think one of the online readers would be less painful. How many feeds do you imagine you need to look at?

Hmmm - the second run still took 11 minutes, so waiting for servers to not respond is probably what's slowing it down.

Anyway, you've got me interested in updating it again soon, so if I do I'll let you know. Looking at it might give you a laugh, if nothing else. It'd require you to install REBOL/View first though. (A simple matter.)

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Date: 2007-07-03 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
i don't how many feeds - ad finitum i guess considering that they would be constantly added over years. although i'm not sure i would be using rss for long - there is a сertain advantage in visiting sites you're interested in one at a time. at least, i felt relief when i switched from fl to reminders. but, at the same time, with time the list of sites you want to visit grows, so maybe what i should use is a simple list of sites.

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Date: 2007-07-03 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
ad finitum's too many, as you can't avoid having to look at their headings at the very least. And how many thousand can you skim in a given time-span before you need to start over again?

One (non-rss) approach would be a (local) site filled with pages of frames, with each frame being a webpage on the net you want to watch. Do you know HTML enough to be able to put something like that together? You'd be hitting an awful lot of non-updated sites though.

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Date: 2007-07-03 08:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
some people read 700-something friendlists, i've always wondered how they manage! frames suck i think - they distort page content and they are no better than rss in other respects. my dilemma is that i prefer to visit sites/journals when i happen to remember about them, on the one hand, but on the other, the list of sites grows and you start to forget some of them completely - and never revisit. so i guess a simple list of sites on a local homepage could be the answer.

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Date: 2007-07-01 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purplesquirrel.livejournal.com
These are SO cool.

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Date: 2007-07-01 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
we bought them from two women and one sleeping man drunkards.

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