Yep - because the drop is long - until it fills up.
They're mostly outdoors here though, and now mostly found at out-of-the-way campsites - or in the 'bush'. (Term for our forests.) A very typical NZ longdrop...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lomuland/339122948/
except for the sign. :-) And not of the composting type, you'll notice. When it fills up, just dig a new hole and move the dunny to it. ( :-) )
I would think rolls became commonplace here in the 50s or early 60s, though my memory of the matter is pretty hazy. It's like television. I can remember getting our first TV, but not the switch from B&W to colour.
Hmmm. And what about keeping the last scraps of soap and boiling them up when you had enough to make a new cake? I can remember my Mum doing that when I was a child.
As to composting: Did you follow the link on that site - to where they said a composting toilet can cost up to $20,000? One would make a good centerpiece for that house...
However, the composting principal is probably pretty simple and probably explained in detail somewhere on the net.
So, does this place have phonelines in? And would it be good enough to at least get some form of internet connection? Or perhaps satellite's available there? The net's way more important than how good the toilet facilities are!
multipurpose building, indeed dacha toilets in russia are mostly outdoors too. and so are toilets in many villages. the further to the north, the more they should move indoors though (?). *And what about keeping the last scraps of soap and boiling them up when you had enough to make a new cake?* haven't heard about that! but i know for sure that there were illegal soap-boilers, at least in the 40s, and they were prosecuted by the government. we had a b&w tv in the 80s. russian color tvs were mostly huge and notorious for blowing up at add moments of watching. just like cell phones are notorious for interfering with health today.
this english gadget looks familiar.
pay phones are about the only thing they have in every village there. for internet, you have the option of GPRS (cheap set-up, expensive traffic) and GPRS+satellite (expensive set-up, cheap traffic). i would prefer to have only the email there, because browsing, blogging and porn really undermine my workflow. and when i say really here i mean really. so i will opt for the slowest and most expensive connection. so, a nice toilet is far moire important! i don't meant to retire completely, though. i'd like to stay in the country for a month or two until i make a good bunch of toys, then move to the town for a month, until i sell them. funny that our new Cold War could (and probably will?) bring an end to my barely-started career: 100% of my customers are from the USA now.
Long as you've some way to post. We can't go without you for months, you know!
And as for Cold War II, I expect you probably didn't watch the Republican Convention? And thus missed seeing Meg Whitman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meg_Whitman) giving a speech there (http://postcards.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/09/04/meg-and-carly-mccains-other-key-women/). (As I did.) Does that help to explain why China's in the top-tier, PayPal-wise, and Russia's in the bottom? Republicans miss the cold war so very deeply...
But I wouldn't worry too much about a new Cold War - unless McCain gets in, which seems unlikely. It doesn't make any sense for anybody, (arms-producers excepted), the neocons being out of step with everyone else in power in the West.
Oh, and for a sane analysis of current events, see this guy's articles...
quick note before i looked at your links: in a country where bush won *two times in a row*, macain will win for the third! that being said, the usa ain't the only party here who are looking to sour my business. you should see official russian media!
That sounds sad - but is there evidence that your lines of communication are being cut off? (Meaning this, non-political websites and such.) Plus the means to send you money. I can't see Russia being stupid enough to halt incoming funds, though a US blockade might just happen. Except there's way too many Western businesses with their fingers in Russia now for that to be likely, isn't there?
i don't think that they (russian hawks) actually mean to draw an iron curtain at this time - not at all. but they've been playing in such a reckless and impertinent manner, that that may just happen, and - to be quite honest - i don't see how it could *not* happen sooner or later. i don't see any evidence that financial flows are being blocked now, but if the confrontation continues, they of course may be. western business involvement present some hope, probably. but really i shouldn't talk politics - i have no idea what's going on and avoid thinking of it
You're wise, probably. I've been a bit of a political junkie since my teens, and it's never done me much good. And I've certainly appreciated having no TV of late. Going without makes you realise just how much your interests are controlled by what's on the box.
Oh, and NZ is in election-mode at the moment, though you wouldn't know it by reading my LJ, right? Happily, our elections are mercifully short compared to the US ones, which are utterly bizarre, when you think about it.
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Thunderboxes
Date: 2008-09-06 12:13 am (UTC)They're mostly outdoors here though, and now mostly found at out-of-the-way campsites - or in the 'bush'. (Term for our forests.) A very typical NZ longdrop...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lomuland/339122948/
except for the sign. :-) And not of the composting type, you'll notice. When it fills up, just dig a new hole and move the dunny to it. ( :-) )
I would think rolls became commonplace here in the 50s or early 60s, though my memory of the matter is pretty hazy. It's like television. I can remember getting our first TV, but not the switch from B&W to colour.
Hmmm. And what about keeping the last scraps of soap and boiling them up when you had enough to make a new cake? I can remember my Mum doing that when I was a child.
As to composting: Did you follow the link on that site - to where they said a composting toilet can cost up to $20,000? One would make a good centerpiece for that house...
However, the composting principal is probably pretty simple and probably explained in detail somewhere on the net.
So, does this place have phonelines in? And would it be good enough to at least get some form of internet connection? Or perhaps satellite's available there? The net's way more important than how good the toilet facilities are!
Re: Thunderboxes
Date: 2008-09-06 10:39 am (UTC)dacha toilets in russia are mostly outdoors too. and so are toilets in many villages. the further to the north, the more they should move indoors though (?).
*And what about keeping the last scraps of soap and boiling them up when you had enough to make a new cake?*
haven't heard about that! but i know for sure that there were illegal soap-boilers, at least in the 40s, and they were prosecuted by the government.
we had a b&w tv in the 80s. russian color tvs were mostly huge and notorious for blowing up at add moments of watching. just like cell phones are notorious for interfering with health today.
this english gadget looks familiar.
pay phones are about the only thing they have in every village there. for internet, you have the option of GPRS (cheap set-up, expensive traffic) and GPRS+satellite (expensive set-up, cheap traffic). i would prefer to have only the email there, because browsing, blogging and porn really undermine my workflow. and when i say really here i mean really. so i will opt for the slowest and most expensive connection.
so, a nice toilet is far moire important!
i don't meant to retire completely, though. i'd like to stay in the country for a month or two until i make a good bunch of toys, then move to the town for a month, until i sell them. funny that our new Cold War could (and probably will?) bring an end to my barely-started career: 100% of my customers are from the USA now.
Re: Thunderboxes
Date: 2008-09-06 11:45 am (UTC)And as for Cold War II, I expect you probably didn't watch the Republican Convention? And thus missed seeing Meg Whitman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meg_Whitman) giving a speech there (http://postcards.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/09/04/meg-and-carly-mccains-other-key-women/). (As I did.) Does that help to explain why China's in the top-tier, PayPal-wise, and Russia's in the bottom? Republicans miss the cold war so very deeply...
But I wouldn't worry too much about a new Cold War - unless McCain gets in, which seems unlikely. It doesn't make any sense for anybody, (arms-producers excepted), the neocons being out of step with everyone else in power in the West.
Oh, and for a sane analysis of current events, see this guy's articles...
http://www.gwynnedyer.com/articles2008.htm
Re: Thunderboxes
Date: 2008-09-06 11:56 am (UTC)that being said, the usa ain't the only party here who are looking to sour my business. you should see official russian media!
Re: Thunderboxes
Date: 2008-09-06 12:06 pm (UTC)That sounds sad - but is there evidence that your lines of communication are being cut off? (Meaning this, non-political websites and such.) Plus the means to send you money. I can't see Russia being stupid enough to halt incoming funds, though a US blockade might just happen. Except there's way too many Western businesses with their fingers in Russia now for that to be likely, isn't there?
Re: Thunderboxes
Date: 2008-09-06 12:17 pm (UTC)i don't see any evidence that financial flows are being blocked now, but if the confrontation continues, they of course may be. western business involvement present some hope, probably. but really i shouldn't talk politics - i have no idea what's going on and avoid thinking of it
Re: Thunderboxes
Date: 2008-09-06 11:38 pm (UTC)Oh, and NZ is in election-mode at the moment, though you wouldn't know it by reading my LJ, right? Happily, our elections are mercifully short compared to the US ones, which are utterly bizarre, when you think about it.