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my school was as close to hell as i have ever got. i was raised in a very permissive family by kind, if somewhat neglectful, parents, who seem to believe that the best way to raise children is by setting a good example and leaving them grow free like weeds. i had never been punished or explicitly humiliated by the time i went to school, and i had never been in a kindergarten.
this is probably the most glaring, though not the most important, example of my early school life. we were doing some math exercise in the class. i was distracted by something when i noticed my teacher coming down the aisle. i panicked and, hastily, pretended to be writing in my copy book. she noticed my commotion, paused by my desk and, very calmly, said something to the effect of "oh don't worry now" (о, уже не надо). then she took my copy book and tore it to pieces, which she threw to the floor, and then she made me pick up the pieces.
that was my primary school teacher, and she was supposed to teach us for three years. fortunately enough, a girl from, as it seemed, a very common family (or, rather, her parents) complained about cruel treatment and alexandra ivanovna, the hysterical, manipulating and sadistic 50 year old ukranian woman, who was also a wife to a militiaman, got fired after my 2nd grade.
in the third grade, the last year of the primary school, we had a very kind young teacher who would spend most of the time in the class reading fairy tales aloud. i think half of the young teachers, fresh from pedulish'e (normal school), are quite good (for school №6, at least) and stay good until they burn out. at least, my third grade teacher was ok - i don't remember her name, though.
the funniest part was that we hated anisimova (the complaining girl) for what she did. i remember standing on the school porch, september the 1st, someone saying: 'anis'ka complained about alexandra ivanovna. alexandra ivanovna got fired'.
'anis'ka the bitch'.
she came back in the middle of the third grade, to visit. they cried 'alexandra ivanovna, alexandra ivanovna!' and poured into the hall. i remember sauntering, like in a dream, out. she had hurt me so much i thought she had special concern for me. she was standing in the sunlit hall, leaning on a window-sill, girls flocked around her. i crossed the hall and stood by a window-sill next to hers. she turned to me and said, very gently: 'ah, vitya', with a smile. i thought she thought all the time about me as i thought about her, and knew something about me, which i didn't know. i thought she was some goddess, a revenging goddess constantly watching me, but she said just that, casually, turned to her minions and chattered on



my brother and dad, with a sack of potatos

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Date: 2005-11-04 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] welfy.livejournal.com
Aw...discipline or not, that was rotten for your teacher to rip up your book! When I was 5 years old, a teacher did something similar. She had given us books that said "Shape Book" like circles and squares. I began to draw in mine and she took it from me and threw it away because she didn't want me drawing my own shapes. She wanted me to copy her shapes on the board. This made me very sad.

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Date: 2005-11-04 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
bitch. i think most school teachers are crazy. mad but harmless is about the best thing you can hope for, as a pupil

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Date: 2005-11-04 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beam-me-up.livejournal.com
Your English is truly exquisite.

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Date: 2005-11-05 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
thanks. i don't quite believe you, but thanks anyway :)

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Date: 2005-11-04 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laktose2232.livejournal.com
That is a crazy story. I'd love to hear more, if you're ever bored!
This isn't as messed up as your teacher ripping your book up, but last year in art class my teacher apparently decided the paper I was using to draw on in class was too small and also that the size in which I was drawing was not satisfying to his needs. He ordered me to start over, so I did, and once again it was too small. So this time I said no, I'm drawing this the way I am and you'll have to deal with it. He did not appreciate that and literally ripped it from my desk and told me I will either do exactly as he says or leave, so I told him to fuck himself and left... I don't appreciate being ordered how to create art, guidance works better than demands.... but anyways..

So I hear Russian's don't have 4th grade, or at least didn't use to? Is that true? In Vladivostok they told me it was because of during the war they wanted people to able to join the military quicker. That's crazy!

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Date: 2005-11-04 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
we have 10 grades of "secondary school" (or whatever it might be called) in russia. but the first three grades are 'primary school', which is the same thing except you have only 1 teacher for all classes

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Date: 2005-11-04 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indigobl.livejournal.com
Did you ever have a good school experience? How about any advanced education?

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Date: 2005-11-05 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
i didn't have any advanced education, except 1 year of medical school. i'm so paranoid of institutions, that i think i would invariably get more harm than benefit from any of them. in theory, the right course would be to learn to ignore them, but i never learned that, and now it's too late anyway.
institution green (http://www.lyricscafe.com/v/vega_suzanne/032.htm)

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Date: 2005-11-05 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indigobl.livejournal.com
There is a certain amount of joy in avoiding the evil institutions.

Before education I could see so much more joy in rainbows and dew on the grass. Now the beauty is long gone in those and many other things. My mind is left to find beauty in many other ways.

As an "educated" person, I am not sure that I am better off.

I look over by my bed, and I find a book on logic. I also see my calculator. Was I a happy person before I had these items?

That being said, along with the unknown beauty, there were many ways that people exploit those who don't know better. At this point in my life, I can hold my own. I am much more independent, and I don't worry about survival in the same way I used to.

Am I really better off?

If we lived in a world filled with love and gratitude, then education would probably be much different. The science of war and hate would be the first to go. Institution green would be an unknown concept.

Education is a strange thing. Unlike money, once you have it, you cannot get rid of it, and at the same time we are both getting older one day at a time.

Political games of lies and deceit are horrible.

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Date: 2005-11-05 08:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
i'm not sure if education, in itself, has to be so harmful. basically, education is just information + skills, it doesn't have to change you so much if they (or you) don't cram it into your head against your will.
and come on, a world filled with love and gratitude? i don't believe in it. at the same time, i think that solving some technical issues would make a great difference. just raising teachers' salaries and making smaller groups (5-10 pupils, maybe) would mean a lot.
anyway, nobody gives a fuck, that's the problem. as soon as they grow up, people just try to forget and avoid school. my nephews go to a different school in balashikha, but still i see all their psychological problems, which in fact are very trivial, though they can completely obscure the sun for them. i don't try to solve their problems because i don't have the time and because, naturally, they would put up a resistance if i tried. i remember that most of all i dreaded my parents interference, which might have been clumsy. i thought the best i could do was to pretend and convince myself everything's ok

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Date: 2005-11-04 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcfnord.livejournal.com
America also has crazy teachers. I had one in the 2nd grade. She would bring me into the back room and scream at me for a long time. A few times I had no idea what she was screaming about. She was a Christian, or so she said.

The thing about evil people is that they usually get theirs in the end. I carried my anger for her for a long time. Many other kids did, too. It must get harder to be evil as your students grow up and gain power.

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Date: 2005-11-05 06:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
well, she's no longer around. i don't think there are many people who grow up and take revenge, though, for instance, the total amount of harm caused by alexandra ivanovna to all the children she taught is hard to imagine. school is a fucken purgatory

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Date: 2005-11-04 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caveshark.livejournal.com
I think as you do that most teachers start out believing that they will change the world by changing the children's lives with education. Somewhere along the way they burn out and go a little insane with having to teach the same thing over and over again. Every once in a while though there is one that seems to understand what it takes to teach children. I've had one of each.

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Date: 2005-11-05 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
Somewhere along the way they burn out and go a little insane with having to teach the same thing over and over again

with that, and also with having to deal with groups of 30-40 children several hours a day (for a tiny salary, btw). besides, normal schools (at least, here) are pretty awful, with a lot of random people who don't want to teach but aren't smart enough to go elsewhere

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Date: 2005-11-05 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robbzipp.livejournal.com
I like the story. Much better than Толсто́й! ;-)

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Date: 2005-11-05 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
i noticed that for some people, anything is better than Толстой ))

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Date: 2005-11-05 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrputter.livejournal.com
There is a common expression in English, claiming that "a picture is worth a thousand words."

Bullshit.

And today provides the proof.



This essay was far more engrossing / interesting / entertaining than the sum total of the myriad pictures you have posted since I first began reading your blog some 6+ months ago.

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Date: 2005-11-05 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
i take it as a compliment because in fact i don't feel responsible for my pictures, i take them involuntarily. writing is a different thing, though, maybe, my ability to control the process here makes (my) writing more awkward
and strained than (my) pictures

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Date: 2005-11-05 08:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
Apart from the neglectful bit, your parents sound near perfect.

As to your writing, someone famous was asked once why he always wrote his novels in a foreign language and he said it forced him to think about every word he wrote. It's probably good when the first thing that comes to mind has to be translated.

And as to your writing vs pictures: Composed vs improvised, maybe? (As in music.)

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Date: 2005-11-05 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
they are near perfect - apart from the neglectful bit. though, if they weren't so neglectful, it might make them imperfect in other respects.
when i write in english, russian words don't come to mind, somehow. in fact, i have a language-specific writing block - i can't write in russian. i wrote a lot until 20 and then it sort of got too sour. as to formal constraints that could be good for writing - dovlatov, a very good russian writer, invented constraints for himself, like never starting a sentence with the same letter in a story, to improve his writing

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Date: 2005-11-05 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glukva.livejournal.com
i'd never payed much attention to school, though i studied excellent till 8th grade. thought, that school is something very unpleasant, but not important. i had never had close friends in school.

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Date: 2005-11-05 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
ignoring it is the best strategy, undoubtedly. i never managed that though

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Date: 2005-11-05 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glukva.livejournal.com
especially if after graduating you forget almost everything except writing, reading and counting!

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Date: 2005-11-05 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
i think i have forgotten even that o)

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Date: 2005-11-05 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glukva.livejournal.com
а сейчас ты кому-то надиктовываешь, чтобы за тебя написали в жж?;))

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Date: 2005-11-05 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
нет. но я активно пользуюсь спелчекером )

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Date: 2005-11-05 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glukva.livejournal.com
:) а я вот считать так и не научилась.

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Date: 2005-11-05 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glukva.livejournal.com
with pleasure;)

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Date: 2005-11-08 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lomake.livejournal.com
i had that feeling about an unpleasant teacher in 7th grade. i thought i meant something to him, in some way, as a special kid. i realized later it was nothing, it was a job.

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Date: 2005-11-15 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_palka/
фотография - просто удивительная. а вроде ничего особенного. Вообще,тащусь от этого журнала! Спасибо!

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Date: 2005-11-16 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
знаете, я подозреваю, что это первая сделанная мной фотография вообще. поскольку мы, кажется, были тогда втроем, а меня в кадре нет. а за комплимент спасибо!

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