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If by Rudyard Kipling



If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too:
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream---and not make dreams your master;
If you can think---and not make thoughts your aim,
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same:.
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build'em up with worn-out tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings,
And never breathe a word about your loss:
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!

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Date: 2006-02-14 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poemtree.livejournal.com
The World Is a Beautiful Place
by Lawrence Ferlinghetti

The world is a beautiful place
to be born into
if you don't mind happiness
not always being
so very much fun
if you don't mind a touch of hell
now and then
just when everything is fine
because even in heaven
they don't sing
all the time

The world is a beautiful place
to be born into
if you don't mind some people dying
all the time
or maybe only starving
some of the time
which isn't half bad
if it isn't you

Oh the world is a beautiful place
to be born into
if you don't much mind
a few dead minds
in the higher places
or a bomb or two
now and then
in your upturned faces
or such other improprieties
as our Name Brand society
is prey to
with its men of distinction
and its men of extinction
and its priests
and other patrolmen

and its various segregations
and congressional investigations
and other constipations
that our fool flesh
is heir to

Yes the world is the best place of all
for a lot of such things as
making the fun scene
and making the love scene
and making the sad scene
and singing low songs and having inspirations
and walking around
looking at everything
and smelling flowers
and goosing statues
and even thinking
and kissing people and
making babies and wearing pants
and waving hats and
dancing
and going swimming in rivers
on picnics
in the middle of the summer
and just generally
'living it up'
Yes
but then right in the middle of it
comes the smiling
mortician

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Date: 2006-02-14 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
i like it

or a bomb or two
now and then
in your upturned faces

this is hilarious

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Date: 2006-02-14 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poemtree.livejournal.com
i had to read/dissect this poem in highschool.

i like it if only because of:

if you don't mind some people dying
all the time
or maybe only starving
some of the time
which isn't half bad
if it isn't you

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
yes, i reread it, and most of it is water, to me, although i have't had to dissect it, fortunately. what's 'goosing statues', does it mean 'catcalling'?

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poemtree.livejournal.com
god, i don't even know.

i am water, even.

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
how the fuck did you dissect it and you don't know?? F, sit down!
now, i find myself willing to say 'it's a good poem', if there's anything good in a poem at all. like, that whining about dead minds in the higher places, i just skip it in my head, it's not interesting at all

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poemtree.livejournal.com
that's exactly how i dissected it, by ignoring the parts that i didn't like or understand! the teacher didn't mind if only because she didn't like/understand the same parts.

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
that's hilarious, i mean, that's hilarious

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
maybe

To poke, prod, or pinch (a person) between or on the buttocks

maybe he's talking about... pawing statues?

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poemtree.livejournal.com
WAIT, WHAT!?

you russians!

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
yes, we russians do that all the time in pushkin museum. WHAT?

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poemtree.livejournal.com
YOU ARE GOING DIRECTLY OVER MY HEAD! the hilariousness of it is going to kill me.

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
you're constantly using expressions i don't know. GOING DIRECTLY OVER YOUR HEAD. what the fuck is that, i see it for the first time in my life. i know you just try to annoy me!

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poemtree.livejournal.com
over my head= you've lost me, i don't understand you.

and yes, basically, i like the idea of annoying you.

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
do you know that i can't understand half of the chit-chat you have in your journal with your friends? half of it is going directly over my head!

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poemtree.livejournal.com
it's funnier that way!

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
no, it's not funny at all. if i didn't know there was nothing interesting in there, i might have the incentive to understand, but the way it is i just want to kick your asses. BLAH BLAH BLAH

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
Arrival
And yet one arrives somehow,
finds himself loosening the hooks of
her dress
in a strange bedroom--
feels the autumn
dropping its silk and linen leaves
about her ankles.
The tawdry veined body emerges
twisted upon itself
like a winter wind . . . !

William Carlos Williams


that's about my arrival to canada, your veined body emerges

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poemtree.livejournal.com
Veined, what a romantic word.

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poemtree.livejournal.com
my sarcasm goes over your head.

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
then at least explain to me, what do they mean by 'twisted upon itself'?

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poemtree.livejournal.com
i don't know! god, i don't know everything.

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
ok, relax, you'll grow up and find out

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Date: 2006-02-14 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poemtree.livejournal.com
yes, one day i will evolve and suddenly it will dawn on me what "twisted upon itself" means.

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Date: 2006-02-14 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
i think you will forget me that very day. i'm too miserable for someone who understands what "twisted upon itself" means

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Date: 2006-02-14 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poemtree.livejournal.com
you will get it over eventually.

now i'm going to go get ready for the lesbians.

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Date: 2006-02-14 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
yeah, right, and i was about to ask what you meant by... ok, go to your lesbians, and i will go to bed. also, NO I WON'T. you're my true love forever. such a pity you're a stupid heartless bitch!
~good night/day

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Date: 2006-02-14 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
The tawdry veined body emerges
twisted upon itself
like a winter wind . . . !

in fact maybe we are not supposed to understand this at all

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Date: 2006-02-15 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emma-loy.livejournal.com
i think the :twisted upon herself" person just holds herself trying to shrink off from you. like this:

Image

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Date: 2006-02-15 06:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
yes, probably! or maybe she indulges in unhealthy masturbation.

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Date: 2006-02-15 06:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emma-loy.livejournal.com
what the fk is unhealthy masturbation?

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Date: 2006-02-15 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
that's when you musturbate and masturbate and masturbate, and at some point all that masturbation undermines your health, that's why it's called 'unhealthy', basically

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Date: 2006-02-15 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emma-loy.livejournal.com
hmmm... does it help to lose weight? probably i should try it then...

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Date: 2006-02-15 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vriad-lee.livejournal.com
unhealthy masturbation will make you skinny in no time! you will also undermine your health in general, but come on, everything comes at a price, doesn't it

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Date: 2006-02-14 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juicy-eli.livejournal.com
i LOVE this poem

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